Proposed Jing Feature - We need your feedback!

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Hello Jing Community;

Update: Thank you for all the comments. The amount of feedback by far exceeded our expectations - it's amazing to have such an active user community. We'll be taking all the feedback into consideration as we continue developing this feature. Thanks again, and until next time!

We've been working on a new feature in Jing - and we need your feedback!

Here is the idea:
If you hold down the CTRL or the Shift-Key when you select a capture area, the area as you are selecting it will be locked to the 4:3 or 16:9 aspect ratio. This will in many cases improve the viewing experience - especially on YouTube and other video sites - because it will make it easy to conform to the standard video dimensions (No more black bars - hooray!)

On top of that, Jing will make it easy snap to some preset dimensions, such as 640 x 480 or 800 x 600. That way, you can get consistent dimensions and results with every capture.

We've taken two approaches to implementing this feature, and we would love to get your feedback on them.
Check out these two short videos:

Prototype A

Protoype B

So what do you think? Would this feature be valuable to you?
What are your thoughts on each prototype, and which one do you prefer?
Are we missing something? Should we somehow indicate that the the region selector is locked to the aspect ratio of 4:3 or 16:9, or is it clear enough by just showing the preset dimensions?

Please leave your thoughts & feedback in the comments by this Tuesday. [We got plenty of feedback. Keep your eyes open for future blog posts!]
Thanks a lot, we really appreciate your input.

-The Jing Team

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98 Comments

I like prototype A best, great idea!

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Did you see this Jing promo? http://vimeo.com/3762073

Anyway...Prototype A please...keep the screen as clear as possible. I can clutter it up on my own, thank you very much!

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Love it! Both are fine, but A is probably better.

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Prototype A seems cleaner.

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YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Prototype "A" is the BEST!!!

(imho)

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I make a lot of in-house video clips as training aids for our teachers. Proto A - less clutter - would be wonderful to ensure consistency from clip to clip.

Very welcome idea!

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I think that Prototype B is the best; someone who is just beginning to use Jing won't think that the small size is all that's available. Showing all of the sizes also lets you easily see if you initially placed your cursor in the right spot to capture everything you need. I love it!

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I prefer Prototype A for it's lack of clutter.

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I like prototype A best Great Idea!!! BTW. :-)

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I'd prefer B.

I don't believe that the "clutter" would affect the Jing usefulness, and it would be nice to be able to see what other standard images were available. With A, if I dragged to a larger size, I wouldn't be able to visualize (accurately) the smaller size I just abandoned.

B, please.

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Prototype A wins by a neck!

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I like Prototype A.

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I like prototype B. Clutter isn't that significant and by the third time you use it, you won't even notice. B gives you better visualization and more information. Either one, thought, would be a great feature!

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A by default

I can see B being useful at times, so please consider making the alt (option) key a modifier (to the CTRL or Shift key) to invoke the Prototype B style.

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Yes! Prototype A is much cleaner.

Phil

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First, I think this is a GREAT idea! Good work!

Prototype "A" is the more elegant of the two concepts IMHO. Less clutter and easier to use.

Thanks for taking the time to ask, it's truly appreciated and I can't wait to try it.

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Love this... Great idea! A for sure.

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Great concept...
I prefer B. Doesn't seem 'cluttered' to me.

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Hi,
Both are great, but for me - a visual type of person - B is better.
Regards, Natasa

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Definitely Prototype A - much cleaner and gets the job done.

btw. what would be really useful is if you could resize the dominant window within the selection to the dimension.

i.e. show an optional dialog when the size have been selected and then ask if Window X should be resized to fit.

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These new features would be awesome!!!! I like both prototypes and see uses for both of them in different situations. If you can give us both prototypes please do. If I have to choose one over the other I would choose prototype A.

The ability to consistently have the same size captures will creatly improve the appeal of my training manuals and videos for teachers.

Thanks for all of your hard work and innovative ideas.

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Clutter Schmutter! I like to be able to visualize what is possible. If you're too anal to have a few extra temporary lines on your screen, then you need a little clinic time! I like Prototype B the best, but I like George Anderson's idea the most---have both!

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Prototype A. Like everyone else says: less clutter. However, as others have pointed out you could simply add a preference that allows the user to choose which style to use.

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Personally? I like A.
Great feature!

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I like prototype B the best, as it provides all possibilities at once. I also agree with George Anderson to make both available. Great idea.

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My preference would be 'B'

Thanks

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Thanks. I prefer A

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I believe I would probably us prototype A as it is an interface that would work more easily for me. Keep up the great work!

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I prefer prototype A, but having a preference (A vs. B) would be nice. Also, after showing the prototypes to a few others, the consensus was that it would be nice if the aspect ratio (i.e. 4:3 or 16:9) could be shown just as a visual reminder.

Thanks for a Great Product!

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Prototype B gives me mor overview and control. Since I relate to the underlying screen area I don't se the preset frames as clutter. I just use them to se if any of the presets fits my needs.

Very good feature.

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prototype A seems awesome and it would be very useful

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Prototype A please... and can you release this yesterday! This will be so helpful!!

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I vote for Prototype A. It's a cleaner approach.

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Both are great. I like A better, but B might be more useful in the long run. How about both and an option parameter?

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Prototype b: a slowdown worklfow.

I have a feature request: why don't you let the user choose the quality of the output pic ? And why don't you give us a "upload from hard drive" button ?

I REALLY think that would complete the app perfectly.

Also a paintbrush (really basic) would be very cool to hide some informations that may appear around the captured area.

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Prototype A, simpler and cleaner.
Prototype B in case of many preset dimensions.

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prototype A all the way! keep the screen clutter free. ty.

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I prefer A, but I'd also like to be able to move the box around to frame the shot just right after I have the aspect ratio set.

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Maybe I missed it, but no one is saying "why not both?" I like either one. It will make it a little easier to grab areas with standard sizes. But, why not offer both in the options menu?

Thanks for a great product!

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Initially, I though A for style. But after reading the comments here, I think B is more functional.

I remember I actually at one time put the standard 4x3 resolutions as my wallpaper. I had boxes marked off for 640x480, 800x600, etc. That way I could easily know how to size windows when I was sharing my desktop so it would prevent users from having to scroll all the time (I hate having to do that myself). It also allowed me to put the main window I wanted to share in the box and have other stuff running outside of the box that only I could see.

So, my vote has to be for "B" for function over style.

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Another vote for A here

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I like "A". Can you have A's functionality, but keep B's looks? I like the thin style of "B"

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I like option A. It clean and easy.

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I prefer prototype A -I agree with others that B seems cluttered.

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Prototype A is way better IMHO :) Prototype B would have the grid off the screen some of the time if I were working in the lower half of my workspace and I think that might confuse people. At the very least it wouldn't look polished. Thanks for a great free product!

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Prototype B would show possibilities of the capture are right away. I vote for it.

And I think the preset dimensions are clear enough.

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My vote is for B. I like being about to see all my options at once.

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I prefer A. I think B seems kind of pointless as you are going to make the region as big as you need it anyway.

It might by nice to also have an alternate key to jump to the next available preset (Ctrl+?).

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I like B. Quickly visualize how big the capture is going to be at different resolutions. Seems much more visual.

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I like Prototype A better. It's keeps the information provided contextual and doesn't overwhelm the user with extra options. (However, I prefer the look-and-feel of the bounding boxes used in Prototype B, so if you could use those ones with Proto A's functionality, that'd be perfect!)

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Prototype A

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Prototype A because it locks to the preset size when you approach it.

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Am I allowed to vote? I vote for B! It doesn't obscure as much of the screen, and it shows me what my options are. The snap zone might need to be a little larger in B.
I definitely think it should be an optional feature.

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I like "A" better. "B" crowds the screen and i dont know how it will behave in different screen resolutions. B makes me a little insecure and overloaded with choices.

Another approach could be to have a snap to the next bigger dimension AND the previous smaller dimension for that aspect ratio.

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A is my favourite! And by the way: It's pretty cool!

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The CTRL key and SHIFT keys are not discoverable. There needs to be an additional, discoverable way to do this. In other words, both A and B fail for me if that's all we get. By all means, use one or the other to _supplement_ some visible control; either one works for me.

Also, after the rectable is sized, I find the pointer a bit weird, a white box within a black diamond, all with a dot. Could you use a more standard pointer that helps users discover that they can drag the recording-area rectangle?

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Add another vote for A. Cleaner.

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I like B better. Let me see all the sizes so I don't have to guess how far I need to expand for the one I want.

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Thanks guys for a great idea. I prefer Prototype B as I can see my options. Have said that...I would not "spit" on Prototype A as both are great and very useful.

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Prototype B
No questions, no ambiquity--assuming that the selection doesn't always start from the upper left corner.


Question
Why is Jing not on your price list?
I teach at the University of Toronto and would like to use it to help my classes put paper together.
It would be ideal for instructional snippets.

See http://www3.sympatico.ca/nick.trendov/Site%20Map%20S2.html Go to Web Strategy Instruction

Sample papers http://www3.sympatico.ca/nick.trendov/Success%20Stories%20S2.html View UNIQLO paper

Cheers,
Nick
www.neuropersona.com

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I think B works better. I would like to see the whole range of options in either direction rather than just one.

Good job

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The concept is brilliant!

I prefer Version A.

However, it would be frustrating to have to keep clicking the first corner in hopes of getting the box just right over the area I want to capture, so consider allowing the user to move the box before starting the capture.

Thanks!

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I'm viewing this from my iPod Touch so I couldn't seethe flash videos. Maybe next time you could provide a short description?

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Hey Guys, Love the work so far.

In fairness both implementations are likely to appeal to different mindsets. I personally prefer B for instance, as I'd like to see all available options without having to wait for the options to be shown. Where as others will like A, as there is less room for confusion / clutter as seen in some of the comments above.

So my suggestion would be, why not allow the mechanism to be a configuration option to the user? Granted it then adds in a few steps for the user to configure Jing to their taste, but hey it's all in the name of personal preference!

Keep up the great work :)

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I'd say make it user selectable. It can't be so much differing code that it risks to bloat the software?

Prototype A seem good for lower resolution screens, while prototype B would be better for higher resolutions.

Mind that there's tons of 16:10 screens out there (1680x1050 and such), would be good to have that as an option too.

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I like Prototype A better. Great idea! Can't wait to see it live.

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B!! It's much easier to visualize your options when you can see all the dimensions on the screen at once. It's not really all that cluttered, but especially for newer users, it would be helpful to "see" all your options at once. I would have a hard time trying to remember what the other options looked like as I was moving the box around.

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I prefer B. It's nice to be able to see what the next steps would look like all at once without having to move back and forth.

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I like prototype A. It's has a cleaner feel that is more in line with Jings simple interface.

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While I sympathize with the clutter-free aims of prototype A, I think that I'd prefer to see at a glance whether I need to resize my target applications to fit in the larger boxes when I'm using prototype B, so my vote is B.

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I like B the best since it shows you all the sizes at once and what's included in the snapshot, but A would work just as well

Thanks for a great product, I also have Camtasia and snagit.

Ben

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Prototype B is way better. You can see each dimension.

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Great idea! I like the suggestion of letting the user select, but if I had to pick just one, B please.

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So, why not make it configurable. Default to A, but allow Jing to be configured to do B if the user prefers?

That way everyone is HAPPY!

Also, consider B not having any shading other than the outline for each area size.

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Prototype A is better IMHO

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Both are good, but B allows you at a glance to see how real estate you'll capture - A would mena having to move the cursor up and down between two boxes to compare them....
You could always have both, and make it a preference ?

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Either would do. Slightly prefer B but more importantly, I want it ASAP.

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Do both and make it an option in the menu. Really cool stuff!

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I have no preference. They both seem equal.

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need to be able to edit video and voice, text convert to multiple languages, able to put in drawing or bubble

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I prefer B, but make it a preference setting and keep everyone happy!

For my work, I'd almost always want to use the constrained sizes. Why not have a preference setting for this too, so that the user can choose which if any modifier keys activate this mode.

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I think Version A is better...

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I am using Capture feature. I found I am not able to change the weight of arrow line. Do you have solution for this? It is very good that I am able to change the fond and size of text.

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1 - I prefer prototype B as it gives a better overall perspective on the amount of real estate that can be captured.
2 - Showing the aspect ratio on the capture frame like the pixel size would be helpful, so long as it can be toggled off in settings for clarity.
3 - Would also be nice to be able to switch between both A and B in settings.
4 - Prototype A is cleaner for advanced users of Jing, but B is more informative.

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Prototype A without doubt, but with an additional feature. This probably comes from my comfort level with photoshop keyboard shortcuts but, in addition to ctrl to fix the aspect ratio with the snap-to presets, if add the ability to hold the spacebar down as well (with ctrl - optionally) and doing so would allow the entire capture area to be moved about the screen (like the marquee tool in photoshop) this would be ideal. Fantastic product guys - great work - use it 10 times a day!
Shawn

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I prefer Option A in this instance as Option B appears to clutter the screen. However Option B also has good points in showing the comparisons across the range of Presets. EIther option is another great advance for the product.

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Prototype A for sure! Much more polished looking.

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What I would really like as a new feature would be a checkbox on the recording saying "Display Actions. With that option on, in the video we could see the mouse events (scroll, left and right click), and if it's not ask to much... the function keys of the keyboard .

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love the product! please continue the great work.

from Denmark!
Bruno Alexandre

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A, but also display the ratio to the left of the dimensions

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A, but also display ratio to the left of the dimensions. Thanks!

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I prefer B. I like the "big picture" aspect of seeing all the options at once. I don't have to play around with resizing to see what choices are available for capturing, I can tell at a glance.

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I like B, but the idea is great.

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.. I like A as solution.. Thanks..

Gianni Degli Antoni

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