What's Next For The Jing Project?
Posted on Friday November 9, 2007 by Tony Dunckel
...Well, hopefully exactly what you've been asking for. Our initial quest with Jing was to streamline all of the complexities involved in sharing digital media via your daily electronic conversations. We were able to do that because we had touch points on both the content creation side (with Jing) as well as the content delivery side (with Screencast.com).
While we achieved that goal technically, we learned from all of you that sharing has a much broader definition than just to Screencast.com. So, in past several weeks, we've taken your feedback to heart and have been working on some enhancements to Jing that we hope will address some of your needs...
Our hope is that you are able to expand how you might use Jing with new options for sharing directly to your private server via FTP, to a public service like Flickr or even to your local hard drive or corporate network via the "File" option.
We know this doesn't cover every sharing scenario, but we're on our way and your feedback will be crucial to continue that journey. So, what do you think?
Oh, when do you get this, you ask? Well... ...hmm, "before the snow flies as they say here in Michigan" :-)
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I don't know if I can wait until the snow flies in MI... I so want this feature...now... Any chance you need an early tester??
Posted by Kathy Jacobs | November 9, 2007 5:15 PM
Posted on November 9, 2007 17:15
That would be the clincher - upload to a private ftp server - like Kathy, I don't know if I can wait either!!! Can I be a tester? Please? :)
Posted by Mark | November 9, 2007 5:52 PM
Posted on November 9, 2007 17:52
So is there any integration for 3rd party sites yet?
It would be realllly neat if it got linked to the flickr, youtube and vimeo apis!
Posted by Pasquale | November 10, 2007 12:26 AM
Posted on November 10, 2007 00:26
A friend of mine just pointed Jing out to me. My initial response was, "so it's another screencasting tool... but that automatically hosts screen casts, big deal."
It took a while for it to sink in but after watching the video turtorial that it did.
I have yet to use it much, but already I can see it's superb productivity application. As the saying goes... it's one of those things you never knew you were missing until you found it. Thanks for the great tool. I didn't realize how much the screen capture > photoshop workflow was slowing me down.
Inroductions a side I just thought I'd leave a comment for two reasons.
1) Please add voice recording? I have not overlooked this feature have I?
I love the ability to annotate a screen snap before sending. It's integral to the communications process and indeed communicating is what screencasting and hence jing is all about.
The problem is I can't annotate a video capture right!?
It would seem like such a problem.... video editing is way to complex... but there's no need for editing / drawing because it's video.
All you need is to allow the recording of voice over! Are you planning on adding the feature? I haven't overlooked it have I? It seems like such an obvious thing to have.
Indeed I was checking out your screen cast about jing at the below url and I assumed the screen cast was made in jing until I got to the end and it said Camista studios. Sort of ironic that you couldn't use jing to do a screen cast about how cool jing is because jing doesn't have voice over. ;)
http://www.screencast.com/users/Info.Development/folders/Default/media/52f189f5-e961-4311-91a1-a392df7c4933
2) second, I love the social features. All of them. Flickr, embed and FTP. Great initial choices. I will probably use them all. I just wanted to comment to encourage you to further develop these features.
For example. There are a lot of video bloggers who screencast. Being able to post directly to your videoblog with the embed is a great feature, but have you thought about integrating with blip.tv and / wordpress or other videoblogging platforms?
I guess youtube would be an obvious one too.
That said, being able to record and post screencasts to my blog instantly through my favorite videoblogging service or platform would simply rock. It'd be the screencasting equivelent to mobile vlogging or mobile photoblogging.
Basically what we're taking about here is the perverbial single click screen casting, though technically it might be two clicks. ;)
Again, I must admit, I'm splitting hares. You've already got embedding, FTP and flickr. So... just consider this me saying... awesome... keep these sharing features coming.
Thanks again. I can't wait to see how it changes my productivity and workflow over the coming weeks.
Posted by Michael Meiser | November 10, 2007 6:40 AM
Posted on November 10, 2007 06:40
Will it also be possible to embed it into a weblog?
Posted by Kaj Rietberg | November 10, 2007 10:37 AM
Posted on November 10, 2007 10:37
Jing is great ! Looking forward for more features
Posted by Peter Franken | November 11, 2007 8:40 AM
Posted on November 11, 2007 08:40
Jing is a great tool - I was a previous user of SnagIt. One thing I miss in Jing is the ability to copy an image into an e-mail (seems to require saving the image to disk and opening in paint or similar to allow copying). Have I missed something obvious like Ctrl-A / Ctrl-C?
Thanks, PatM
Posted by Pat Murphy | November 12, 2007 6:57 AM
Posted on November 12, 2007 06:57
@ michael, it does support voice over ;)
Posted by Pasquale | November 12, 2007 9:37 PM
Posted on November 12, 2007 21:37
I'm a heavy Camtasia Studio user, and am interested in being able to use a free service like Jing to allow anyone on my dev team to record content to then pull into Camtasia Studio for final production. Will this work with the .swf files and embedded controls it produces, or would I need the underlying, (and not exposed), recorder file?
I ask because in that case Jing becomes a driver to adopt more copies of Camtasia Studio, but does not work in the reverse. That is, my budget caps Camtasia Studio purchases in the absence of creative content, but with more creative content available from the team, it justifies more Studio purchases. Does that make sense?
Posted by Patrick H | November 13, 2007 7:35 AM
Posted on November 13, 2007 07:35
Looks like an excellent feature. Uploading to FTP/File covers a multitude of internal moans about security I've had when trying to get people to use this excellent and [currently] free tool.
As with Patrick H, I've been trying to get my overworked dev's to document for months and this tool really allows a short cut for them to demonstrate a feature or configuration that they have been working on.
Again, as with Patrick I would love to link this free tool in with Camtasia as in the following example:
1. A Dev completes an update and, using Jing, records the configuration and/or operation in his test environment.
2. Dev saves the file locally or, better still, on a predefined network location.
3. I or another Camtasia Studio user can pick up the Jing file and add it to a production for training, presentation or distribution.
Is that the sort of think you were thinking, Patrick?
Linking Jing with 3rd party apps? Is that the heady scent of a public API? Please say is :¬)
~Robin
Posted by Robin Mayfield | November 14, 2007 4:55 AM
Posted on November 14, 2007 04:55
Great project! Will I be able to have a Jing video play back on my blog?
Thanks again.
Posted by Houston divorce attorney | November 14, 2007 10:28 PM
Posted on November 14, 2007 22:28
What about linux support?
Posted by Erigami | November 16, 2007 12:06 PM
Posted on November 16, 2007 12:06
I'd say this is a measure of the Jing tool's success - in my first month I'm up to my bandwidth limit of 1gb. I'd certainly like to see upload to my own server but don't want to lose the convenience of auto-generated embed code. The annual upgrade of $40 is not steep in itself but like many other individuals I already have annual costs related to hosting and services so Im conscious of little costs adding up. Maybe an upgrade from screencast.com with less space and bandwidth for $25??
Posted by pete whitfield | November 18, 2007 4:16 PM
Posted on November 18, 2007 16:16
I have started using Jing quite heavily lately. I still use Camtasia for move involved stuff, but for quick and dirty stuff, Jing is amazing.
Enhanced sharing would be right up there at the list of needs, and saving in a format other than swf (flv perhaps) would be the other.
#1 request ... keep Jing simple :)
Posted by Deepak | November 18, 2007 8:53 PM
Posted on November 18, 2007 20:53
@ Pete,
The great thing about our upcoming enhancements is that you'll be able to use your own hosting server if desired and *still* get the auto-embed code back. You'll have to do a one-time setup of some details since we don't know your server name and things like that, but we'll provide some helpful tips to make it painless. Of course, we still feel Screencast.com is best suited to host and share your Jing content. Your feedback about another price point is very useful information. Thanks.
-Tony Dunckel
Product Manager, The Jing Project
Posted by Tony Dunckel | November 19, 2007 2:36 PM
Posted on November 19, 2007 14:36
@ Deepak,
Thanks for the feedback. Lately a new term is arising for tools like Jing, called 'micro-screencasting'. It's a perfect term for the exact use case you mention -- quick and dirty screencasts with no worry of the umms and uhhs.
Micro-screencasting represents exactly what we built the Jing Project around. I'm so happy to hear you find it useful in that regard.
Tony Dunckel
Product Manager, The Jing Project
Posted by Tony Dunckel | November 19, 2007 2:45 PM
Posted on November 19, 2007 14:45
@ Pasquale - Yes, we will be supporting Flickr integration as an initial step towards broader sharing. Sharing to video sites like YouTube have signficant challenges to overcome including the rendering issues that occur with screen related content. However we look forward to your resposne to how Jing works with Flickr and where we can go from there.
Tony Dunckel
Product Manager, The Jing Project
Posted by Anonymous | November 19, 2007 3:33 PM
Posted on November 19, 2007 15:33
@ Patrick & Robin - Great feedback. Yes integration with our existing Camtasia Studio and SnagIt products is high on the list of requests from all of you. As we better understand how to fit Jing within our product offerings, providing integration opportunities like this make a lot of sense.
Currently there is no way to import a .swf file into CS without using a 3rd party .swf decoder to render in an acceptable format. I will definately keep this in mind as we move forward with Jing.
Tony Dunckel
Product Manager, The Jing Project
Posted by Tony Dunckel | November 19, 2007 3:41 PM
Posted on November 19, 2007 15:41
Only while reading today's newsletter did I realise that there is a hotkey option for Jing. I love this option but my biggest reason for loving it would have been to be able to show my cursor in a Jing image.
Is there a way to do that? Snagit offers me a choice between showing or not showing my cursor. Is there a similar choice in Jing that I have overlooked.
One more comment: I appear to have the latest version of Jing in my machines but the preferences screen in the video that instructs us on how to use a hotkey is different from the preferences screen in the version of Jing that I have. On my machines, it does not refer to the "sun".
Regards,
Jonathan
Posted by Jonathan Lewin | November 20, 2007 4:06 PM
Posted on November 20, 2007 16:06
Tony, I hope you are thinking hard on the way in which a paid-up Jing will appear as a sequel to the present free Jing.
Perhaps, after offering the product as a free "project" item for this long, the way to charge for it should be to leave the present form of Jing as some sort of Jing Basic and to present the Jing with the new features you are now considering as a "product" instead of as a "project". I really think that Jing has come of age and that it is ready for sale.
Regards,
Jonathan
Posted by Jonathan Lewin | November 20, 2007 4:13 PM
Posted on November 20, 2007 16:13
SFTP or SCP support would be nice. FTP is outdated, insecure (plaintext passwords) and disabled on lots of servers in favour of SFTP.
Posted by dakira | November 27, 2007 12:59 AM
Posted on November 27, 2007 00:59
I can't figure out how to send the JING folks the information they wanted on the size of my captures, etc.
Can someone point me to a blog entry or some where it's explained?
Posted by Sandee Cohen | December 3, 2007 2:55 PM
Posted on December 3, 2007 14:55
Where can I find a FREE program (XP) that will enhance the cursor (make it more visible when I click) when I'm screencasting? Thanks
Posted by Pete Bothwell | July 1, 2008 6:17 PM
Posted on July 1, 2008 18:17